Jan 10, 2025
Mark interviews Waubgeshig Rice, an author and journalist from
Wasauksing First Nation, and the author of four books, most notably
the bestselling novels Moon of the Crusted Snow
and Moon of the Turning Leaves.
Prior to the interview, Mark shares comments, a personal update
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In their conversation Mark and Waubgeshig talk about:
- Waub's interest in high school with English classes but still
feeling like there was no strong connection and that not many of
the books and stories being taught in Ontario in the 1990s were all
that relatable
- Being shown books by indigenous authors via his Auntie that
weren't being studied in school -- books by authors such as Richard
Wagamese, Lee Maracle, Louise Erdrich -- and how that blew his
world wide open and included thoughts such as maybe he could do
that himself some day
- The Grade 12 Writing Course taught by Tom Bennett at Parry
Sound High School that helped Waubgeshig in shaping stories
- Being side-tracked from creative writing by studying and
beginning a career in journalism
- The benefit of getting to know writers and artists in the
Toronto area in the early 2000s
- Applying for his first writing grant from Canada Council for
the Arts in 2004
- Waub's first book, Midnight Sweat Lodge, a
connected short story collection
- How things really changed when Waubgeshig's Moon of the
Crusted Snow first came out in 2018
- Leaving full time journalism employment at CBC to become a
full-time writer in 2020
- The Northeast Blackout of 2003 and how his experiences being
back home at Wasauksing First Nation near Parry Sound when it was
all going down is what inspired Waubgeshig in writing Moon
of the Crusted Snow
- Coming to the realization that home was the best place to be if
this were actually a world-ending electricity blackout
- The stereotypes and mythologies about what life on a
reservation is, and how, during that dark moment, it was a reminder
of the resources and the beauty that place could actually be
- Expressing the heartfelt spirit of community that has withstood
a lot of violence historically, and how that helps a group of
people survive this latest major crisis
- Deciding to set the story in a location that a little further
removed from Southern Ontario than where Waubgeshig actually grew
up
- Waub's approach in writing the sequel and wanting it to take
place several years after the events in the first novel and how
that came to happen
- How the second novel explores the way the people of the
community are able to live more autonomously on the land as
Anishinaabe people
- The interesting publishing path that Waubgeshig's first novel
took in landing at ECW Press
- Working with acquiring editor Susan Renouf and how great an
experience that was and the wonderful suggestions she made to
improve the raw manuscript
- The speculative fiction elements of a post-apocalyptic novel
and Waub feeling so accepted in the SF/F community
- How the success of Moon of the Crusted Snow
led Waub to getting agent representation by Denise Bukowski
- The path that led to Penguin Random House offering the contract
for the sequel Moon of the Turning Leaves
- The new project that Waub is working on now
- Advice that Waub would offer to other writers
- And more...
After the interview Mark reflects on several different things he
was thinking about during and after the conversation.
Links of Interest:
Waubgeshig Rice is an author and journalist
from Wasauksing First Nation.
He’s written four books, most notably the bestselling novels
Moon of the Crusted Snow, and Moon of
the Turning Leaves.
He graduated from the journalism program at Toronto Metropolitan
University in 2002, and spent most of his journalism career with
the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation as a video journalist and
radio host.
He left CBC in 2020 to focus on his literary career.
In addition to his writing endeavours, Waubgeshig is an eclectic
public speaker, delivering keynote addresses and workshops,
engaging in interviews, and contributing to various panels at
literary festivals and conferences.
He speaks on creative writing and oral storytelling,
contemporary Anishinaabe culture and matters, Indigenous
representation in arts and media, and more.
He lives in Sudbury, Ontario with his wife and three sons.
The introductory, end, and bumper music for this podcast
(“Laser Groove”) was composed and produced by Kevin MacLeod of
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